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		<title>By: luckyblackcat6</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2013 20:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been depressed for many years, denying myself who I am and the things I like doing. I was trying to live someone else&#039;s life because I was told mine wasn&#039;t good enough. It didn&#039;t make someone happy. I now realise that someone is my mother who has used me as her counsellor and her stuff has got into my head. Years of being told about her relationship problems with her husband. At the same time telling me I have a mental problem and borderline personality disorder. I now realise this was all a LIE. I have wasted most of my life trying to figure out what&#039;s wrong with me. I now see that the problem is with her. She&#039;s getting older and more intent on keeping me her reliable counsellor. We had a row. I&#039;m not speaking to her over the phone and I feel really marvellous having time to myself to figure things for myself without her emotional hassle. Taking a break from her has left me feeling so much lighter - time to figure out what I want and who I am! The next step is to free myself from her grasp when I speak to her on the phone if I have to - which I suppose I don&#039;t!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been depressed for many years, denying myself who I am and the things I like doing. I was trying to live someone else&#8217;s life because I was told mine wasn&#8217;t good enough. It didn&#8217;t make someone happy. I now realise that someone is my mother who has used me as her counsellor and her stuff has got into my head. Years of being told about her relationship problems with her husband. At the same time telling me I have a mental problem and borderline personality disorder. I now realise this was all a LIE. I have wasted most of my life trying to figure out what&#8217;s wrong with me. I now see that the problem is with her. She&#8217;s getting older and more intent on keeping me her reliable counsellor. We had a row. I&#8217;m not speaking to her over the phone and I feel really marvellous having time to myself to figure things for myself without her emotional hassle. Taking a break from her has left me feeling so much lighter &#8211; time to figure out what I want and who I am! The next step is to free myself from her grasp when I speak to her on the phone if I have to &#8211; which I suppose I don&#8217;t!!</p>
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		<title>By: life requires happiness, happiness requires love.</title>
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		<dc:creator>life requires happiness, happiness requires love.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have been there,you should say you know how it feels,and taht no matter what happens,you&#039;ll pull through it TOGETHER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have been there,you should say you know how it feels,and taht no matter what happens,you&#8217;ll pull through it TOGETHER.</p>
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		<title>By: It's just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>It's just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-Depressants saved my life.  I cannot function without working medication.  If I start slipping, I know it&#039;s time to adjust the meds.  

Without the meds I would have no motivation to be healthy.

I strongly suggest that anyone here with depression talks to qualified and properly liscened doctors who rely upon science--NOT certifiable quacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-Depressants saved my life.  I cannot function without working medication.  If I start slipping, I know it&#8217;s time to adjust the meds.  </p>
<p>Without the meds I would have no motivation to be healthy.</p>
<p>I strongly suggest that anyone here with depression talks to qualified and properly liscened doctors who rely upon science&#8211;NOT certifiable quacks.</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 16:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-depressants only help the pocketbooks of the pharmaceutical companies....and they cause misery and in a lot of cases suicides of people that could have been helped with vitamins, supplements, a healthier diet....things that can help get one&#039;s body chemicals up to a healthy level...something these synthetic chemicals do not do well. 

So be careful about professional help....they push drugs...not health...go to a naturopathic Dr...most people go to a Dr. who is a mechanic..we need to go to doctors who are &quot;gardeners&quot;....someone to help us grow and flourish...not die on the vine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-depressants only help the pocketbooks of the pharmaceutical companies&#8230;.and they cause misery and in a lot of cases suicides of people that could have been helped with vitamins, supplements, a healthier diet&#8230;.things that can help get one&#8217;s body chemicals up to a healthy level&#8230;something these synthetic chemicals do not do well. </p>
<p>So be careful about professional help&#8230;.they push drugs&#8230;not health&#8230;go to a naturopathic Dr&#8230;most people go to a Dr. who is a mechanic..we need to go to doctors who are &#8220;gardeners&#8221;&#8230;.someone to help us grow and flourish&#8230;not die on the vine.</p>
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		<title>By: Hurting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hurting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 21:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My partner keeps telling me i am crazy because i suffer from depression. He also says its genetic so he doesn&#039;t want kids with me. He shouts at me and says some of the most hurtful things. Whenever i feel really sick or down i have to keep it to myself, if i tell him he just gets angry.
These things push me to want to hurt myself and i did once and i&#039;m scared that it&#039;s only getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My partner keeps telling me i am crazy because i suffer from depression. He also says its genetic so he doesn&#8217;t want kids with me. He shouts at me and says some of the most hurtful things. Whenever i feel really sick or down i have to keep it to myself, if i tell him he just gets angry.<br />
These things push me to want to hurt myself and i did once and i&#8217;m scared that it&#8217;s only getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: fearingevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>fearingevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 09:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate Being Depressed that was a very good post and makes so much sense in the reality of this, I hope Duck has returned to read it.  

I have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder nearly a year ago, but I have struggled through with the depression up until a few years ago, and since before age 7.  Attempting suicide 6 times since then with a few good years while I raised my two boys... with only a few bouts of severe depression.  I am 48. I found this site by searching &quot;the worst thing about facing suicide is you cannot say goodbye&quot;.  I have been holed up in my house which will soon be taken away for the last year, and prior to that for 9 months (2 weeks stay at the hospital).  I know I cannot talk to anyone because if I do, tears roll instead, or nothing makes sense to the listener, and they&#039;ll end up putting me in a cold, hard bedded, drafty, ugly and uncomfortable hospital until I can muster up enough wit to somehow prove I am happy or better to them.  When I read the article, I thought my son must have been here and taking notes, as he has tried much of this, but when he does, I always feel guilty because I know I cannot go out to the movies, or shopping, etc., and know or feel I should go &quot;for him&quot; but I still cannot go.  I don&#039;t like making others feel the way they feel about my depression, but I cannot change it so it is best to not talk and allow them to feel that pain, EVEN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO TALK to either try to once again explain, or to say goodbye or whatever.  I feel bad, sometimes hurt, but understand when he says he&#039;ll come over another specific time but doesn&#039;t.  I know the problems and heartache I cause and it is not that I want to do.... I don&#039;t, so the end result is to accept it and not call and follow-up with why he didn&#039;t come over.  Let it go, let that distance take hold and give him a break from it.  

What Duck must have been feeling, is what has kept me here.... not wanting to leave these things in the heart of my son to live with.  It&#039;s the hardest thing to figure out.  Knowing this is why I know you are correct in your message to Duck.  Her friend likely really struggled to go on that walk, but did it for Duck as a celebration of what she enjoyed the most in life, to give a little back, and to say goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate Being Depressed that was a very good post and makes so much sense in the reality of this, I hope Duck has returned to read it.  </p>
<p>I have been diagnosed with major depressive disorder nearly a year ago, but I have struggled through with the depression up until a few years ago, and since before age 7.  Attempting suicide 6 times since then with a few good years while I raised my two boys&#8230; with only a few bouts of severe depression.  I am 48. I found this site by searching &#8220;the worst thing about facing suicide is you cannot say goodbye&#8221;.  I have been holed up in my house which will soon be taken away for the last year, and prior to that for 9 months (2 weeks stay at the hospital).  I know I cannot talk to anyone because if I do, tears roll instead, or nothing makes sense to the listener, and they&#8217;ll end up putting me in a cold, hard bedded, drafty, ugly and uncomfortable hospital until I can muster up enough wit to somehow prove I am happy or better to them.  When I read the article, I thought my son must have been here and taking notes, as he has tried much of this, but when he does, I always feel guilty because I know I cannot go out to the movies, or shopping, etc., and know or feel I should go &#8220;for him&#8221; but I still cannot go.  I don&#8217;t like making others feel the way they feel about my depression, but I cannot change it so it is best to not talk and allow them to feel that pain, EVEN AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO TALK to either try to once again explain, or to say goodbye or whatever.  I feel bad, sometimes hurt, but understand when he says he&#8217;ll come over another specific time but doesn&#8217;t.  I know the problems and heartache I cause and it is not that I want to do&#8230;. I don&#8217;t, so the end result is to accept it and not call and follow-up with why he didn&#8217;t come over.  Let it go, let that distance take hold and give him a break from it.  </p>
<p>What Duck must have been feeling, is what has kept me here&#8230;. not wanting to leave these things in the heart of my son to live with.  It&#8217;s the hardest thing to figure out.  Knowing this is why I know you are correct in your message to Duck.  Her friend likely really struggled to go on that walk, but did it for Duck as a celebration of what she enjoyed the most in life, to give a little back, and to say goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: munchimaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>munchimaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. My family says all of this to me.  Even though it feels good that I can show them this, I actually feel it&#039;s the only way for them to vent about how frustrated they feel about how my illness has given them grief.  This way I can avoid them throwing me back in the hospital even if it means for them to say these harsh things to me everyday.  Damned if you do damned if you don&#039;t right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. My family says all of this to me.  Even though it feels good that I can show them this, I actually feel it&#8217;s the only way for them to vent about how frustrated they feel about how my illness has given them grief.  This way I can avoid them throwing me back in the hospital even if it means for them to say these harsh things to me everyday.  Damned if you do damned if you don&#8217;t right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jaime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my problem.

What do you say to someone who is depressed, and reaching out to you...when you are struggling with your own depression?

When a friend turns to you and says she feels her life is empty...what do you say when you feel the exact same way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my problem.</p>
<p>What do you say to someone who is depressed, and reaching out to you&#8230;when you are struggling with your own depression?</p>
<p>When a friend turns to you and says she feels her life is empty&#8230;what do you say when you feel the exact same way?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, we would not be reading your very wise words.  Should have proof read that first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, we would not be reading your very wise words.  Should have proof read that first.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 01:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate being Depressed,

If your husband hadn&#039;t forgot his wallet we would be reading your very wise words.  Thanks for still being here.</description>
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<p>If your husband hadn&#8217;t forgot his wallet we would be reading your very wise words.  Thanks for still being here.</p>
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		<title>By: Hate Being Depressed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hate Being Depressed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duck,
I cannot imagine the pain and guilt you must feel. It will probably take a lot of time for you to accept, come to terms with or realize, call it what you will,  you are not responsible for your friend&#039;s suicide. I am not an expert, but most people who successfully commit suicide have made peace with the world, and found a way to say goodbye to their friends without actually saying goodbye. The walk you and your best friend went on (again I am not an expert) was probably her loving you and saying goodbye. You may have been the last person she wanted to say goodbye too... but she was going to commit suicide. It is very hard for the average person to know what a  friend is contemplating and to intervene. Not is experts cannot prevent suicide.
Sometimes going out for a walk helps, sometimes it doesn&#039;t. The walk was not the key to the suicide. That decision was made long before the walk. The only thing that saved me from a successful sucicide attempt was my husband returning home... he forgot his wallet! I was angry with him for saving me for a very long time.

As for insensitive people... Mother thinks depression is crap, Tells me to, &quot;Get over it regularly!&quot; If she only realized she is depressed, or at the very least extremely unhappy, perhaps she would not be so very cruel. Her mother was depressed and lived on darvon... Selective memory prevents my mother from even remembering this! Depression rears its ugly head when we should be happiest and any other time... Living with it is hard. A supportive environment helps enormously. Even so it cannot always be overcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duck,<br />
I cannot imagine the pain and guilt you must feel. It will probably take a lot of time for you to accept, come to terms with or realize, call it what you will,  you are not responsible for your friend&#8217;s suicide. I am not an expert, but most people who successfully commit suicide have made peace with the world, and found a way to say goodbye to their friends without actually saying goodbye. The walk you and your best friend went on (again I am not an expert) was probably her loving you and saying goodbye. You may have been the last person she wanted to say goodbye too&#8230; but she was going to commit suicide. It is very hard for the average person to know what a  friend is contemplating and to intervene. Not is experts cannot prevent suicide.<br />
Sometimes going out for a walk helps, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t. The walk was not the key to the suicide. That decision was made long before the walk. The only thing that saved me from a successful sucicide attempt was my husband returning home&#8230; he forgot his wallet! I was angry with him for saving me for a very long time.</p>
<p>As for insensitive people&#8230; Mother thinks depression is crap, Tells me to, &#8220;Get over it regularly!&#8221; If she only realized she is depressed, or at the very least extremely unhappy, perhaps she would not be so very cruel. Her mother was depressed and lived on darvon&#8230; Selective memory prevents my mother from even remembering this! Depression rears its ugly head when we should be happiest and any other time&#8230; Living with it is hard. A supportive environment helps enormously. Even so it cannot always be overcome.</p>
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		<title>By: NotDepressed</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotDepressed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so much agree with this article! People around can be so insensitive to a depressed person it often blows me away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so much agree with this article! People around can be so insensitive to a depressed person it often blows me away!</p>
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		<title>By: joanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all depends on the person...Yes the advice is good..but it just depends..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all depends on the person&#8230;Yes the advice is good..but it just depends..</p>
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		<title>By: Sheila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One time during a severe episode - when I was feeling suicidal - I told my therapist that I was feeling worse than my first episode - which was also severe and he replied &quot;You never go back to feeling worse than the first time.&quot;  I was so angry because he had no idea how I was feeling and to presume that he knew better than I did was pure arrogance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One time during a severe episode &#8211; when I was feeling suicidal &#8211; I told my therapist that I was feeling worse than my first episode &#8211; which was also severe and he replied &#8220;You never go back to feeling worse than the first time.&#8221;  I was so angry because he had no idea how I was feeling and to presume that he knew better than I did was pure arrogance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing I personaly do not want to hear is; &quot;I know how you feel&quot; Sorry but unless you have had the excatly the same life experences, you DON&quot;T know how I feel, the same for grief. I would rather hear I can&#039;t know how you feel but if you want to talk about it I&#039;m here to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing I personaly do not want to hear is; &#8220;I know how you feel&#8221; Sorry but unless you have had the excatly the same life experences, you DON&#8221;T know how I feel, the same for grief. I would rather hear I can&#8217;t know how you feel but if you want to talk about it I&#8217;m here to listen.</p>
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