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	<title>Comments on: Transparency, Kupfer and the DSM-V</title>
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		<title>By: DSM-V: Suggestions for Change &#124; World of Psychology</title>
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		<dc:creator>DSM-V: Suggestions for Change &#124; World of Psychology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no defender of the DSM revision process, as previous blog entries have noted. But I&#8217;ve noticed that sometimes the criticism moves from well-couched concerns [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mental health patient</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/06/25/transparency-kupfer-and-the-dsm-v/comment-page-1/#comment-637205</link>
		<dc:creator>mental health patient</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dr. Grohol, for providing us with the link to the list of DSM-V revision task force.

I noticed most members are MDs, PhDs, and/or professors connected with clinical practice or research.

Why are many critical stakeholders missing from the task force/committees?  Mental health advocacy groups and similar organizations, patients, and policymakers should be part of this process.  So many lives are affected by this mental health bible, and I am shocked at the lack of representation and diversity of the task force.

Another concern is that Western Psychiatric hospital associated with the leader of this project--Dr. David Kupfer.  While Western Psych and its affiliated medical school, the University of Pittsburgh, both have a good reputation for academics, Western Psychiatric hospital has a terrible reputation for patient care.  Clinicians and other health care workers have noted this.

Link to the task force and committees: 

http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dr. Grohol, for providing us with the link to the list of DSM-V revision task force.</p>
<p>I noticed most members are MDs, PhDs, and/or professors connected with clinical practice or research.</p>
<p>Why are many critical stakeholders missing from the task force/committees?  Mental health advocacy groups and similar organizations, patients, and policymakers should be part of this process.  So many lives are affected by this mental health bible, and I am shocked at the lack of representation and diversity of the task force.</p>
<p>Another concern is that Western Psychiatric hospital associated with the leader of this project&#8211;Dr. David Kupfer.  While Western Psych and its affiliated medical school, the University of Pittsburgh, both have a good reputation for academics, Western Psychiatric hospital has a terrible reputation for patient care.  Clinicians and other health care workers have noted this.</p>
<p>Link to the task force and committees: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: John M Grohol PsyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M Grohol PsyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DSM-V involves a *lot* more than 27 people. See this press release for the names of all the folks involved in the DSM-V revision process:

http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx

There are 28 people on the primary task force, and then 13 work groups who are doing that actual work for each different disorder area (like mood disorders), and each work group has approx. 15-20 members each. That&#039;s hundreds of professionals. 

I agree, however, that this DSM-V revision process has become very political and secretive for no good reason, and if you want to continue following the ongoing foibles and lack of transparency over at the American Psychiatric Association, I highly suggest subscribing to Dr. Carlat&#039;s blog, as he updates regularly on the process:

http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DSM-V involves a *lot* more than 27 people. See this press release for the names of all the folks involved in the DSM-V revision process:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.psych.org/MainMenu/Newsroom/NewsReleases/2008NewsReleases/dsmwg.aspx</a></p>
<p>There are 28 people on the primary task force, and then 13 work groups who are doing that actual work for each different disorder area (like mood disorders), and each work group has approx. 15-20 members each. That&#8217;s hundreds of professionals. </p>
<p>I agree, however, that this DSM-V revision process has become very political and secretive for no good reason, and if you want to continue following the ongoing foibles and lack of transparency over at the American Psychiatric Association, I highly suggest subscribing to Dr. Carlat&#8217;s blog, as he updates regularly on the process:</p>
<p><a href="http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Diagnostics and Statistical Manual (DSM), the Shrink&#039;s bible, has been around for over 50 years.  Within this manual, there are now possibly nearly 300 mental disorders.  

As a dictionary of suspected mental illnesses, many redefined diagnoses are added to this manual with each edition, and how such disorders are classified and assessed.

On occasion, a mental disorder is deleted from the DSM, such as homosexuality in the early 1970s.  Its purpose, this manual, is to assist mental health professionals to diagnose and classify mental disorders.

 How a group sponsored by for profit pharmaceutical industry corporations that promote psychotropic drugs for various mental issues that may or may not fully exist make the determinations that they do while maintaining objectivity is a phenomenon.

Published and designed by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), the DSM is also used, I understand, for seeking mental diagnostic criteria to assure reimbursement. 

The DSM is organized in part by the following:
 
I- Mental disorders
II- mental conditions
III- Physical disorders/syndromes, medical conditions (co-morbidity)
IV- Mental disorder suspected etiology
V- Pediatric assessments
 
The APA has historically directed the creation of each edition of the DSM, and assigns selected task force members to create this manual.  This situation has proven to be controversial.

The next DSM involves 27 people.  About 80 percent of these individuals are male, and only 4 members are not medical doctors.  Most have had relationships with the NIH, and about 25 percent of these task force members have had relationships with the WHO.  

Historically, at least a third of task force members have had, or do, have often monetary pharmaceutical industry ties in some way.

This makes sense, as about one third of the APAs total financing is from the pharmaceutical industry.

The APA required this task force for the next DSM edition to sign non-disclosure agreements- which is rather absurd and pointless.  Lack of transparency equals lack of credibility because of these agreements of the content of the next DSM.  It opposes any recovery model necessary regarding such disorders, I believe.  
 
The DSM should be evaluated by another unrelated task force or a peer review of sorts to assure objectivity.  This is particularly of concern presently, as many more are diagnosed with mental dysfunctions presently at a concerning rate- with very young children in particular.

Dan Abshear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Diagnostics and Statistical Manual (DSM), the Shrink&#8217;s bible, has been around for over 50 years.  Within this manual, there are now possibly nearly 300 mental disorders.  </p>
<p>As a dictionary of suspected mental illnesses, many redefined diagnoses are added to this manual with each edition, and how such disorders are classified and assessed.</p>
<p>On occasion, a mental disorder is deleted from the DSM, such as homosexuality in the early 1970s.  Its purpose, this manual, is to assist mental health professionals to diagnose and classify mental disorders.</p>
<p> How a group sponsored by for profit pharmaceutical industry corporations that promote psychotropic drugs for various mental issues that may or may not fully exist make the determinations that they do while maintaining objectivity is a phenomenon.</p>
<p>Published and designed by the American Psychiatric Association (APA), the DSM is also used, I understand, for seeking mental diagnostic criteria to assure reimbursement. </p>
<p>The DSM is organized in part by the following:</p>
<p>I- Mental disorders<br />
II- mental conditions<br />
III- Physical disorders/syndromes, medical conditions (co-morbidity)<br />
IV- Mental disorder suspected etiology<br />
V- Pediatric assessments</p>
<p>The APA has historically directed the creation of each edition of the DSM, and assigns selected task force members to create this manual.  This situation has proven to be controversial.</p>
<p>The next DSM involves 27 people.  About 80 percent of these individuals are male, and only 4 members are not medical doctors.  Most have had relationships with the NIH, and about 25 percent of these task force members have had relationships with the WHO.  </p>
<p>Historically, at least a third of task force members have had, or do, have often monetary pharmaceutical industry ties in some way.</p>
<p>This makes sense, as about one third of the APAs total financing is from the pharmaceutical industry.</p>
<p>The APA required this task force for the next DSM edition to sign non-disclosure agreements- which is rather absurd and pointless.  Lack of transparency equals lack of credibility because of these agreements of the content of the next DSM.  It opposes any recovery model necessary regarding such disorders, I believe.  </p>
<p>The DSM should be evaluated by another unrelated task force or a peer review of sorts to assure objectivity.  This is particularly of concern presently, as many more are diagnosed with mental dysfunctions presently at a concerning rate- with very young children in particular.</p>
<p>Dan Abshear</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Surguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Surguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, psychiatry is based more on politics and financial gain for the pharmaceutical companies than on science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, psychiatry is based more on politics and financial gain for the pharmaceutical companies than on science.</p>
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		<title>By: skillsnotpills</title>
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		<dc:creator>skillsnotpills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue with DSM V being secretive is beyond inappropriate.  I offer this to readers to consider:  Social Anxiety Disorder is NOT a diagnosis found in the DSM IV-TR, and yet it is used to this day in literature.  And, who basically was behind this term?  SmithKlineBeecham, who made Paxil, who pushed for the indication for Social Phobia, a diagnosis in the DSM.  Social Anxiety disorder is more vague and elusive, sort of like the Sith in Star Wars.

You think being vague and elusive serves the patients and responsible physicians, or perhaps, the cronies at DSM V headquarters who have much to gain by coming up with new terms and symptoms for the pharma heads to push for new indications?

You be the judge.  Have your light sabers handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue with DSM V being secretive is beyond inappropriate.  I offer this to readers to consider:  Social Anxiety Disorder is NOT a diagnosis found in the DSM IV-TR, and yet it is used to this day in literature.  And, who basically was behind this term?  SmithKlineBeecham, who made Paxil, who pushed for the indication for Social Phobia, a diagnosis in the DSM.  Social Anxiety disorder is more vague and elusive, sort of like the Sith in Star Wars.</p>
<p>You think being vague and elusive serves the patients and responsible physicians, or perhaps, the cronies at DSM V headquarters who have much to gain by coming up with new terms and symptoms for the pharma heads to push for new indications?</p>
<p>You be the judge.  Have your light sabers handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very difficult to take the pills, vicodin in this case we are gaining control of our body, we must remain very careful and not fall and hang on to drugs, always remember to look at this couple and for our future. I read findrxonline certainly are very addictive and so we need to know control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very difficult to take the pills, vicodin in this case we are gaining control of our body, we must remain very careful and not fall and hang on to drugs, always remember to look at this couple and for our future. I read findrxonline certainly are very addictive and so we need to know control.</p>
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		<title>By: American Psychitric Associate&#8217;s Gag Order &#171; REBT Insights</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/06/25/transparency-kupfer-and-the-dsm-v/comment-page-1/#comment-628965</link>
		<dc:creator>American Psychitric Associate&#8217;s Gag Order &#171; REBT Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me REBT Insights American Psychitric Associate’s Gag OrderREBT’s Understanding of Resistance: Part OneWhy REBters focus on Absolutisms not [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/06/25/transparency-kupfer-and-the-dsm-v/comment-page-1/#comment-628962</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very concerned about the secrecy of the APAs work on the DSMV.  Appalled in fact. It is anathema to the development process of such a work that will affect thousands of patients and providers to keep this process secret. Such a process is susceptible to group think and decidedly unscientific processes that are more dependent on the personalities of committee members than science. Furthermore, shame on those on the working group of the DSMV for signing such a gag agreement in the first place. Such a paranoid attitude, however, should not surprise us coming from a discipline, i.e. psychiatry which is has been taken over by the drug industry. The DSM V should be rejected out of hand because of this secretive process on the grounds of its serious violation of scientific inquiry. And it is irrelevant if a comment period will be allowed by the APA as it will only serve to give face acquiescence to the reasonable critics of the secretive process. The APA&#039;s gag process has changed years of reasonable practice in the development of the DSM and should be viewed as a serious violation of scientific ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very concerned about the secrecy of the APAs work on the DSMV.  Appalled in fact. It is anathema to the development process of such a work that will affect thousands of patients and providers to keep this process secret. Such a process is susceptible to group think and decidedly unscientific processes that are more dependent on the personalities of committee members than science. Furthermore, shame on those on the working group of the DSMV for signing such a gag agreement in the first place. Such a paranoid attitude, however, should not surprise us coming from a discipline, i.e. psychiatry which is has been taken over by the drug industry. The DSM V should be rejected out of hand because of this secretive process on the grounds of its serious violation of scientific inquiry. And it is irrelevant if a comment period will be allowed by the APA as it will only serve to give face acquiescence to the reasonable critics of the secretive process. The APA&#8217;s gag process has changed years of reasonable practice in the development of the DSM and should be viewed as a serious violation of scientific ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflections on the DSM Process and Academic Freedom &#124; Before You Take That Pill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflections on the DSM Process and Academic Freedom &#124; Before You Take That Pill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by members of the American Psychiatric Association (APA), as well other commentary here and here and here. I seem to have wandered from a fairly tongue in cheek exercise in the DSM Shadow Team, [...]</description>
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