Comments on: No Significant Relationship Between Violent Crime and Mental Illness http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/ Dr. John Grohol's daily update on all things in psychology and mental health. Since 1999. Sat, 26 May 2012 02:27:01 +0000 hourly 1 By: dragon lady http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-710143 dragon lady Mon, 09 May 2011 17:03:51 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-710143 I am sorry but I totally believe that crime and mental disorder definately goes hand in hand, How can one even think they don`t. I have seen it to many times in the forensic mental health setting, You would have to do allot more than a couple of studies to convince me otherwise.. I am sorry but I totally believe that crime and mental disorder definately goes hand in hand, How can one even think they don`t. I have seen it to many times in the forensic mental health setting, You would have to do allot more than a couple of studies to convince me otherwise..

]]> By: Harry Holt http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-640052 Harry Holt Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:04:35 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-640052 Your article relative to Mental Health and Violent Crime was interesting; but not totally convincing. If you were to commit to a "common ground" that turns more people toward violent crime; what would that sorce be? Surely not racial, location, financial, religion, mixed marriages?. There must be some common ground. What is your idea of a "Common Ground? And how do we reduce what we cannot see or define? Or is that an excuse for not doing anything to reduce it? Harry Your article relative to Mental Health and Violent Crime was interesting; but not totally convincing. If you were to commit to a “common ground” that turns more people toward violent crime; what would that sorce be? Surely not racial, location, financial, religion, mixed marriages?. There must be some common ground. What is your idea of a “Common Ground? And how do we reduce what we cannot see or define? Or is that an excuse for not doing anything to reduce it?

Harry

]]> By: Bipolar Domestic Violence | Mental Health Blogs http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-628267 Bipolar Domestic Violence | Mental Health Blogs Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:21:30 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-628267 [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...] [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...]

]]> By: Bipolar Domestic Violence | World of Psychology http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-628261 Bipolar Domestic Violence | World of Psychology Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:52:01 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-628261 [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...] [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...]

]]> By: Bipolar Domestic Violence | World of Psychology http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-628260 Bipolar Domestic Violence | World of Psychology Mon, 08 Jun 2009 05:52:01 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-628260 [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...] [...] manic episode can be bad for your mental health and in some cases physical safety as well. Although it is a myth that mentally ill people are more violent, as shown in epidemiological studies, it is also true that there are risk factors that increase the [...]

]]> By: John M. Grohol, Psy.D. http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-627772 John M. Grohol, Psy.D. Wed, 27 May 2009 19:53:19 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-627772 Substance abuse and alcoholism live in a world unto themselves. While technically true that these are considered mental disorders, they are rarely treated by the same professionals or considered amongst the same people who have a mental illness. In some states, they are even handled by completely different human service agencies. Perhaps this is because alcoholism and substance abuse are something someone does -- initially, at least -- voluntarily, and undertakes it for recreational purposes. These substances then directly affect the body and brain chemistry and, interacting with genetics, can make a person codependent fairly quickly. This is significantly different than every other mental disorder, where there is no external substance being taken that causes the depression, anxiety or mania or ADHD or what-not. Once you take away the substance abuse/alcoholism, there is no significant effect for violence. And that's the main point. Substance abuse and alcoholism live in a world unto themselves. While technically true that these are considered mental disorders, they are rarely treated by the same professionals or considered amongst the same people who have a mental illness. In some states, they are even handled by completely different human service agencies.

Perhaps this is because alcoholism and substance abuse are something someone does — initially, at least — voluntarily, and undertakes it for recreational purposes. These substances then directly affect the body and brain chemistry and, interacting with genetics, can make a person codependent fairly quickly.

This is significantly different than every other mental disorder, where there is no external substance being taken that causes the depression, anxiety or mania or ADHD or what-not.

Once you take away the substance abuse/alcoholism, there is no significant effect for violence. And that’s the main point.

]]> By: Joe Dixon http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-627762 Joe Dixon Wed, 27 May 2009 16:12:33 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-627762 This article missed two essential facts necessary to a true understanding of this issue. One, substance abuse is a mental disorder (see DSM-IV). Two, substance abuse comorbid with paranoid personality or paranoid schizohrenia is an extremely high risk factor for future violence. Numerous studies point this out clearly. Otherwise, the article is accurate. This article missed two essential facts necessary to a true understanding of this issue. One, substance abuse is a mental disorder (see DSM-IV). Two, substance abuse comorbid with paranoid personality or paranoid schizohrenia is an extremely high risk factor for future violence. Numerous studies point this out clearly. Otherwise, the article is accurate.

]]> By: talesofacrazypsychmajor http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-627617 talesofacrazypsychmajor Sun, 24 May 2009 12:54:44 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-627617 Glad to see this study and that it's been getting so well publicized. I've had psychology professors who said things like 'people with schizophrenia can be dangerous'. I cringe thinking, 'Don't say that! This is how stigma gets formed!' Lots of people can be dangerous don't go spreading the negative stereotypes. Glad to see this study and that it’s been getting so well publicized. I’ve had psychology professors who said things like ‘people with schizophrenia can be dangerous’. I cringe thinking, ‘Don’t say that! This is how stigma gets formed!’ Lots of people can be dangerous don’t go spreading the negative stereotypes.

]]> By: jennie http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/05/22/no-significant-relationship-between-violence-crime-and-mental-illness/comment-page-1/#comment-627595 jennie Sat, 23 May 2009 19:34:19 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=4428#comment-627595 Wish the soldiers could benefit from such research. Wish the soldiers could benefit from such research.

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I hope that, once and for all, the message is clear — someone who has a mental illness is at no greater risk for violent crime. So says a new study that….

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