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		<title>By: Mike from JustinTV</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/first-live-webcam-suicide/comment-page-2/#comment-692639</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike from JustinTV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This suicide was a real shock for whole JustinTV community, hope this was accidental. 

There was few situations when people save peoples houses from burglers after they watch in on jtv. 

Best Regards
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This suicide was a real shock for whole JustinTV community, hope this was accidental. </p>
<p>There was few situations when people save peoples houses from burglers after they watch in on jtv. </p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: mark kriner</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/first-live-webcam-suicide/comment-page-2/#comment-667221</link>
		<dc:creator>mark kriner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 07:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve depress for many years now,everyone tells me there&#039;s hope&amp;help for me.But after 25 years now,I don&#039;t see no one helping out with my problems I have,Doctor&#039;s give you medicine to say they releive the pain,but it don&#039;t work,I was abused when I was younger,I don&#039;t trust no body know more,feel like committing suicide all the time,which I have 3 times now,but still living and feel like crap everyday,God should been there for me when I was abused but he didn&#039;t help and I hate him for that,i hate being this way all the time,Yes I Wish I was Dead?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve depress for many years now,everyone tells me there&#8217;s hope&amp;help for me.But after 25 years now,I don&#8217;t see no one helping out with my problems I have,Doctor&#8217;s give you medicine to say they releive the pain,but it don&#8217;t work,I was abused when I was younger,I don&#8217;t trust no body know more,feel like committing suicide all the time,which I have 3 times now,but still living and feel like crap everyday,God should been there for me when I was abused but he didn&#8217;t help and I hate him for that,i hate being this way all the time,Yes I Wish I was Dead?????</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa D.</title>
		<link>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/first-live-webcam-suicide/comment-page-2/#comment-623346</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM GLAD I FAILED THE ONLY TIME I TRIED TO KILL MYSELF. &quot;NO MAN IS AN ISLAND&quot; JOHN DONNE

IF I HAD MANAGED TO TAKE MY LIFE I WOULD HAVE HARMED THE TWO PRECIOUS CHILDREN I CONSIDER THE BEST THING TO COME FROM MY LIFE.

I&#039;VE KNOWN THE DARKNESS AND THE BLEAK CERTAIN OF DESPAIR AND I&#039;VE ALSO KNOWN THE DARK TO LIFE AND LIFE TO BECOME BETTER.

I&#039;VE BEEN WORKING MOST OF MY LIFE TO SURVIVE MY CHILDHOOD AND NO ONE BUT GOD WILL EVER KNOW WHAT I REALLY SUFFERED AND WHAT IT HAS COST ME TO NOT GIVE UP AND DIE.

BOTTOM LINE: SUICIDE IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY PROBLEM IN THE VAST NUMBER OF CASES. IT LEAVES ANYONE WHO KNOWS AND LOVES US WITH UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, UNENDING DOUBTS AND UNQUENCHABLE PAIN. I AM NOT AN ISLAND MY LIFE AFFECTS MORE PEOPLE THAN I PROBABLY KNOW.

I DO CARE ABOUT ANYONE READING THIS AND HURTING. YOUR LIFE DOES MATTER. HANG ON.

LISA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM GLAD I FAILED THE ONLY TIME I TRIED TO KILL MYSELF. &#8220;NO MAN IS AN ISLAND&#8221; JOHN DONNE</p>
<p>IF I HAD MANAGED TO TAKE MY LIFE I WOULD HAVE HARMED THE TWO PRECIOUS CHILDREN I CONSIDER THE BEST THING TO COME FROM MY LIFE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;VE KNOWN THE DARKNESS AND THE BLEAK CERTAIN OF DESPAIR AND I&#8217;VE ALSO KNOWN THE DARK TO LIFE AND LIFE TO BECOME BETTER.</p>
<p>I&#8217;VE BEEN WORKING MOST OF MY LIFE TO SURVIVE MY CHILDHOOD AND NO ONE BUT GOD WILL EVER KNOW WHAT I REALLY SUFFERED AND WHAT IT HAS COST ME TO NOT GIVE UP AND DIE.</p>
<p>BOTTOM LINE: SUICIDE IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY PROBLEM IN THE VAST NUMBER OF CASES. IT LEAVES ANYONE WHO KNOWS AND LOVES US WITH UNANSWERED QUESTIONS, UNENDING DOUBTS AND UNQUENCHABLE PAIN. I AM NOT AN ISLAND MY LIFE AFFECTS MORE PEOPLE THAN I PROBABLY KNOW.</p>
<p>I DO CARE ABOUT ANYONE READING THIS AND HURTING. YOUR LIFE DOES MATTER. HANG ON.</p>
<p>LISA</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Echt-Live Gutschein: Gratiszugang Gutschein (vom 02.01.2009) &#124; Gutscheine - Preisausschreiben</title>
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		<title>By: pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im glad for the kid. until people walk a mile is someone elses shoes. u dont have a right to judge. i have been at breaking points more times then once. and most here did a web search to find this, the only way u would find it if u were debating it urself. there is no shame in giving up. im sure i will one day. hopefully sooner then later. i would love to c a live suicide so it may give me more influence to do it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im glad for the kid. until people walk a mile is someone elses shoes. u dont have a right to judge. i have been at breaking points more times then once. and most here did a web search to find this, the only way u would find it if u were debating it urself. there is no shame in giving up. im sure i will one day. hopefully sooner then later. i would love to c a live suicide so it may give me more influence to do it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Film Based on Justin.tv Suicide&#160;&#124;&#160;sarahcpr</title>
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		<title>By: therapyfirst</title>
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		<dc:creator>therapyfirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the comments by Janet &amp; psychotropics8mybrain are both poignant and accurate.  It is about not wanting to live the way depression makes one think and feel.

Thank you for your perspectives.  And, I can echo Psychotropics vignette:  I had a patient OD on tylenol and die a slow, painful death from liver failure that took three weeks to occur.  She didn&#039;t want to die, she just wanted someone to tell her she could live a better life.  Lethal gestures I call this.

Happy thanksgiving to all with hope and faith.

therapyfirst</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the comments by Janet &amp; psychotropics8mybrain are both poignant and accurate.  It is about not wanting to live the way depression makes one think and feel.</p>
<p>Thank you for your perspectives.  And, I can echo Psychotropics vignette:  I had a patient OD on tylenol and die a slow, painful death from liver failure that took three weeks to occur.  She didn&#8217;t want to die, she just wanted someone to tell her she could live a better life.  Lethal gestures I call this.</p>
<p>Happy thanksgiving to all with hope and faith.</p>
<p>therapyfirst</p>
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		<title>By: psychotropics8mybrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>psychotropics8mybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a pdoc i know told me about a young man who took an overdose... i don&#039;t know what of.. but whatever it was they couldn&#039;t reverse the damage.. he had been brought to the hospital not long after taking the drug/whatever, but they couldn&#039;t help him. He lay there for a day or two before he died, *knowing* he was dying, regretting it, crying. There wasn&#039;t anything anyone could do apparently.

suicide isn&#039;t a desire to die... it that someone doesn&#039;t want to live.. they just don&#039;t want to live *like this* anymore.. they don&#039;t see options</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a pdoc i know told me about a young man who took an overdose&#8230; i don&#8217;t know what of.. but whatever it was they couldn&#8217;t reverse the damage.. he had been brought to the hospital not long after taking the drug/whatever, but they couldn&#8217;t help him. He lay there for a day or two before he died, *knowing* he was dying, regretting it, crying. There wasn&#8217;t anything anyone could do apparently.</p>
<p>suicide isn&#8217;t a desire to die&#8230; it that someone doesn&#8217;t want to live.. they just don&#8217;t want to live *like this* anymore.. they don&#8217;t see options</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t ever say what you would and would not do,concerning depression. When you are in your normal state of mind, you can&#039;t imagine taking your life. However, when severe depression sets in, you are not in your normal state of mind. That&#039;s the keyword here. Normal versus not normal.I attempted suicide once,and let me tell you this much. I didn&#039;t want to die, but I didn&#039;t want to live either. As soon as I took those pills, I realized what I had done, and I called for help. But, that&#039;s actually what I was doing to begin with &quot;Calling Out For Help&quot;. Never, ever, under estimate what a depressed person will do. Always take thier comments serious and get them help, right then and there if they even mention suicide. Suicide does seem to be selfish and cowardly, but, anyone in their &quot;right mind&quot; won&#039;t even consider it. For those that have never been that depressed, it&#039;s very hard to understand how one can take or attempt to take their life.Like I said, take the person serious, and you may just end up saving a life.!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t ever say what you would and would not do,concerning depression. When you are in your normal state of mind, you can&#8217;t imagine taking your life. However, when severe depression sets in, you are not in your normal state of mind. That&#8217;s the keyword here. Normal versus not normal.I attempted suicide once,and let me tell you this much. I didn&#8217;t want to die, but I didn&#8217;t want to live either. As soon as I took those pills, I realized what I had done, and I called for help. But, that&#8217;s actually what I was doing to begin with &#8220;Calling Out For Help&#8221;. Never, ever, under estimate what a depressed person will do. Always take thier comments serious and get them help, right then and there if they even mention suicide. Suicide does seem to be selfish and cowardly, but, anyone in their &#8220;right mind&#8221; won&#8217;t even consider it. For those that have never been that depressed, it&#8217;s very hard to understand how one can take or attempt to take their life.Like I said, take the person serious, and you may just end up saving a life.!!!</p>
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		<title>By: truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, neither of the aforesaid articles were the &quot;First Live Webcam Suicide.&quot; Brandon Vedas committed suicide in 2003 on his webcam by overdose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, neither of the aforesaid articles were the &#8220;First Live Webcam Suicide.&#8221; Brandon Vedas committed suicide in 2003 on his webcam by overdose.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Vedas</a></p>
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		<title>By: therapyfirst</title>
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		<dc:creator>therapyfirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worry about the potential copycats that might occur from this incident.  As this medium of the internet &quot;devolves&quot;, in my opinion, I see more and more how an opportunity to go and be outlandish, extreme, or just plain sociopathic can flourish in an environment with little to no accountability.

Suicide is always a tragedy.  It just goes to show how one death can affect so many others.

By the way, medications, when prescribed responsibly and in conjunction with timely and accessible psychotherapy, improves and not worsens suicidal thinking.  Maybe it is time for someone to review the circumstances to alleged examples of when meds made people suicidal and see what was just the meds versus what was poor treatment interventions in general.

I use this analogy: if you come to a room and there are two doors out, and door #1 has an 80% likelihood of taking you where you want to go, and door#2 has only a 20% likelihood of getting you there, which door are you going to take?

For the most part in life, nothing is 100% accurate or dependable.  You play the numbers and hope the stats give you some edge or comfort.

happy thanksgiving

therapyfirst

(thanks for covering this story, by the way.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worry about the potential copycats that might occur from this incident.  As this medium of the internet &#8220;devolves&#8221;, in my opinion, I see more and more how an opportunity to go and be outlandish, extreme, or just plain sociopathic can flourish in an environment with little to no accountability.</p>
<p>Suicide is always a tragedy.  It just goes to show how one death can affect so many others.</p>
<p>By the way, medications, when prescribed responsibly and in conjunction with timely and accessible psychotherapy, improves and not worsens suicidal thinking.  Maybe it is time for someone to review the circumstances to alleged examples of when meds made people suicidal and see what was just the meds versus what was poor treatment interventions in general.</p>
<p>I use this analogy: if you come to a room and there are two doors out, and door #1 has an 80% likelihood of taking you where you want to go, and door#2 has only a 20% likelihood of getting you there, which door are you going to take?</p>
<p>For the most part in life, nothing is 100% accurate or dependable.  You play the numbers and hope the stats give you some edge or comfort.</p>
<p>happy thanksgiving</p>
<p>therapyfirst</p>
<p>(thanks for covering this story, by the way.)</p>
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		<title>By: Frances</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our daughter suffered an overdose of prescribed meds a few months ago.  We were able to get her to the ER in plenty of time.  Never, ever thought she would do anything like this.

The drugs (including Ambien CR) convinced her she was OK...that nothing would happen to her.  She just wanted to stop the emotional pain so she kept taking one medication after another...again...all the time thinking she was in control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our daughter suffered an overdose of prescribed meds a few months ago.  We were able to get her to the ER in plenty of time.  Never, ever thought she would do anything like this.</p>
<p>The drugs (including Ambien CR) convinced her she was OK&#8230;that nothing would happen to her.  She just wanted to stop the emotional pain so she kept taking one medication after another&#8230;again&#8230;all the time thinking she was in control.</p>
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