In my own experience, I have never felt so much relief to see someone leave my life when you moved on. The hostility was so painful for me.

I’m glad to see this here as it brought me peace.

You’re welcome to argue. It will be one-sided.

I’ve been on the road for about a month now, and just responded on occasion when I was notified via email about a post here.

I’m back home now and looking through this more carefully, and I’m realizing that you posted, apparently for the “first time” ever, on APRIL 17, 2009, almost 45 DAYS after the previous response (which was mine, on March 2nd).

You posted a link that was in favor of Bill Licktenstein – this is the type of thing Bill has done in the past : write posts in his own defense weeks and months after a topic dies down, because something new came up to clear his name.

I’m really curious about your allegiance. Why the sudden interest in this topic, and how come you showed up just to post about it and defend him?

Your attempt to make it seem that Bill could have referred to anyone who posts on PsychCentral, and not to Moira ON THIS VERY THREAD/BLOG ENTRY, is ludicrous. Note that Moira has defended Dr. Goodwin only on this thread and indicated that she is a patient of Dr. Goodwin, then Bill posted about a blog post by a patient of Dr. Goodwin relating to this topic, then Moira followed up on this very topic refuting Bill’s allegation that she had been recruited by Dr. Goodwin’s office. And you think anyone of average intelligence who reads this thread with a reasonable level of attention and understanding will have any doubt whatsoever who Bill is referring to?

That is as pathetic as the attempts Bill has tried to make, and even resembles his pattern of defense. Unless you can prove otherwise, I think it’s more than reasonable to assume that you are affiliated with Bill or have some allegiance or relationship to him; I’ll not suggest though that you are Bill using a pseudonym, because I will give Bill enough credit to say that he will not hesitate to post under his own name when he wants to, as he has done here before.

Sekhar

What do basketball writers say: “No blood, no foul?”

Have a good day.

“I am coming forward now because, in addition to the groundless attacks on me contained on your web site, you also posted comments from one of Fred Goodwin’s patients, who, in the most unethical manner imaginable, was enlisted by Goodwin’s office to speak out in his defense regarding The Infinite Mind matter at a time when she was ill, and subsequently was hospitalized with a manic episode. You apparently thought nothing of posting her writings, nor did you express any concern when I notified you that she had been ill and hospitalized and that her comments defending Goodwin had been written during a period when she now says she was manic; in fact, her comments remain on your site.“

Your words. This is an enormous breach of confidentiality, sir. This patient wrote willfully and honestly, indicating that Dr. Goodwin is her doctor. She obviously holds him in high regard. Whether she was manic, depressed, or perfectly fine is totally beside the point.

You wrote, on this public forum, confidential information which is protected by HIPAA, whose web site (http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/understanding/index.html) instructs:

“If you believe your rights are being denied or your health information isn’t being protected, you can
File a complaint with your provider or health insurer
File a complaint with the U.S. Government”

You have done some incredible work to help erase the stigma of mental illness. Why would you state that anyone’s statements should be disregarded, simply because of a ‘period of mania’? Then, you later state, when someone attempts to defend that individual, that he is “worked up over the situation involving Fred Goodwin”.

No. This can not be you. You are too strong of an advocate FOR people with mental illness. Please please stop this endless nonsense. It was written in November of 2008!!! Why you brought it back to the forefront in February is a mystery best left alone.

Peace, please.

“…truth is corrected error, and without debate no truth can emerge. Yet sensationalism, designed to profit the book or newspaper industries, should also be discouraged.”

The corrected error is that Dr. Goodwin has always been open about his inside track with pharmaceutical companies in his scientific papers, to his university, to his colleagues, in his book, in his website, http://www.drgoodwin.com.

As Dr. Grohol reports, journalistic standards for disclosure and transparency changed radically within the last year or two. Journalism changed. The Infinite Mind didn’t.

I tip my tin foil hat to yellow journalism.

Truly,
Moira

As for Bill’s diagnosis, it’s public record, I didn’t reveal anything he hasn’t disclosed himself.

Here’s an idea for you to end this unproductive sniping. Stop getting involved.

My email isn’t disclosed here. Where are you going to get my email address? Hmmm. If you really know me and my email address, write to me with your full name and how you know me.

You posted that EXACT SAME THING on Furious Seasons months ago: http://www.furiousseasons.com/movabletype/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=1912

Why not post something original? Or continue discussion in Furious Seasons.

Liz,

Who are you? If you know me, email me. Why do I have to pose as you, when I write with my full name, and not hide behind vague names (Liz K – I don’t know any Liz K). I’ve been wondering if you’re Bill Lichtenstein. Why the sudden interest here?

So let me get this right! Your coming over from your regular posting pro-pharmaceutical paid for and supported site “BipolarConnect.com” with others doing John McManamy bidding in support of Dr. Goodwin; since I’m sure John wouldn’t want to come here and face the litany of questions about how he gets his nice bling bling money checks, is completely bought into, controlled, and aligned with Big Pharmaceutical and his good Pal Dr. Goodwin {seeing as Goodwin did write that outstanding blurb on the cover of his Book}.

I have to wonder when Senator Grassley and Congress are going to start investigating this misrepresentation and pharmaceutical funded ran sites like “BipolarConnection.com” and their master “www.HealthCentral.com”; which in turn is pretty much completely controlled by AstraZeneca?

I’m just surprised that anyone in that tight little closed circle of happy pat you on the back pill poppers would want to come to an open forum and actually want to debate this corruption issue.

Especially since everything on that site is all about what a great guy Dr. Goodwin is, and how this Greed mongering, and unethical behavior in no way puts his research, opinions, and writings in question!

Is it time for a reality check people!!!

What a crock of S—- you have going on over there. Don’t you realize by directing research, wielding his influence, doing his tainted pro-pharma broadcast, and taking which accounts to bribes from Big Pharmaceutical; many less intrusive and more effective treatment modalities were never even considered or looked at because they were not going to make Big Pharmaceutical and Dr. Goodwin the Huge bucks.

Yeah, he’s a real gem alright! Tell that to the millions upon millions that have been damaged, maimed, or killed by these so called medication treatments!

Have you ever even considered that due to the pharmaceutical revolution in psychiatry; with all the greed, influence, and money it has generated; the true results have been not much better than before psychotropic medications, considering both the biological and mental damage they inflict upon consumers and the staggering levels of supposed mental illness we now have falsely diagnosed today?

How about the strong possibility that we have been going in the wrong direction for so long, everyone has lost sight of reality and what we are actually doing to real human beings and society with psychiatry as it is set in its medical model today! All the wasted resources, research, brain power, funds, and energy flowing down the drain for what?

The answer seems pretty simple and common sense considering what is coming to light among the most elite and so called respected of the industry and psychiatry; It’s called $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, not health care!

In fact, it’s so far from ethical and humane! It could now be considered crimes against humanity itself.

Yours Truly,
Stan

Someone just posted (above), pretending to be me.

Sekhar, is that you, trying to absolve yourself from your very bad behavior in your attacks on Bill Lichtenstine???

Now I am starting to wonder what to believe here. If someone is going to pose as me, to make themself look better, are all of the posts here from who they say they are? Are the posts from Bill Lichtenstine actually from him, or perhaps from someone posing as him?

This is why the mental health movement is mired in nonsense.

You write:
“…the time has come for mental health advocates to start working together and to stop sniping and infighting.”

Amen!

1. Full disclosure of potential conflicts of interest is the way to go for journalists and for scientists and especially for scientist-journalists and journalist-scientists.

2. I am sorry if anything that I wrote hurt Bill Lichtenstein. I know from years of listening to The Infinite Mind on the radio and online that Bill is one talented fellow. I’m glad to have a tough guy like him in my corner fighting for mental health.

Speaking of tough guys, Dr. Goodwin, who looks a lot like Clint Eastwood, is not stuck under a bus! Please meet him and hear him speak on “Treatment of Bipolar Disorder: Challenges and Controversies” in a talk sponsored by the Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance of the National Capital Area (www.dbsanca.org).

Dr. Goodwin’s chat begins at 7:30 PM this Thursday night at George Washington University. It’s FREE and open to the public. Bring your questions.