Comments on: Another Take on the SSRI and Suicide Relationship http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/17/another-take-on-the-ssri-and-suicide-relationship/ Dr. John Grohol's daily update on all things in psychology and mental health. Since 1999. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:26:24 +0000 hourly 1 By: marg http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/17/another-take-on-the-ssri-and-suicide-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-641718 marg Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:20:06 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=1632#comment-641718 I have seen first hand my son have aggressive panic attacks within 30 minutes of taking Zoloft. Even the expression on his face would change. He broke down his own bedroom door. We eventually found he could only tolerate Luvox. It took 4 years of exasperating efforts to get the Doctors to recognise what was happening. We were always told the symptoms would subside. Agitation was noticeable with all SSRI. Valium was difficult to get Dr to prescribe but it did relieve the symptoms. I would not doubt at all that SSRI can promote suicide. We were lucky it didn't happen to us. I have seen first hand my son have aggressive panic attacks within 30 minutes of taking Zoloft. Even the expression on his face would change. He broke down his own bedroom door. We eventually found he could only tolerate Luvox. It took 4 years of exasperating efforts to get the Doctors to recognise what was happening. We were always told the symptoms would subside. Agitation was noticeable with all SSRI. Valium was difficult to get Dr to prescribe but it did relieve the symptoms. I would not doubt at all that SSRI can promote suicide. We were lucky it didn’t happen to us.

]]> By: Claire http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/17/another-take-on-the-ssri-and-suicide-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-276402 Claire Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:27:04 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=1632#comment-276402 Wrx, from what I understand the study is actually arguing the opposite - that it's the decrease in antidepressant prescriptions that's lead to a supposed increase in suicides (not that the drugs caused the suicides). That being said, I do wish there was more information available on the number of people who commit suicide once antidepressants have been started. In psychology classes I've always been taught that a depressed person who goes on an antidepressant and then commits suicide does so because they supposedly now have the energy to kill themselves (maybe that increase in energy is really agitation?). I never saw any data supporting that theory, either. Theories are great, and all, but it sure would be nice to see some facts to support those theories. Wrx, from what I understand the study is actually arguing the opposite – that it’s the decrease in antidepressant prescriptions that’s lead to a supposed increase in suicides (not that the drugs caused the suicides).

That being said, I do wish there was more information available on the number of people who commit suicide once antidepressants have been started. In psychology classes I’ve always been taught that a depressed person who goes on an antidepressant and then commits suicide does so because they supposedly now have the energy to kill themselves (maybe that increase in energy is really agitation?). I never saw any data supporting that theory, either. Theories are great, and all, but it sure would be nice to see some facts to support those theories.

]]> By: Wrx http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/17/another-take-on-the-ssri-and-suicide-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-275939 Wrx Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:55:53 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=1632#comment-275939 pardon my typos, etc. (such as "the fault dont not belong..." obviously i meant "DOES not belong..." I wont correct every single darned error.. but just want to point out that sure I have flaws, but one of them is not being stupid. ~W(rx) pardon my typos, etc. (such as “the fault dont not belong…” obviously i meant “DOES not belong…”

I wont correct every single darned error.. but just want to point out that sure I have flaws, but one of them is not being stupid.

~W(rx)

]]> By: Wrx http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/17/another-take-on-the-ssri-and-suicide-relationship/comment-page-1/#comment-275936 Wrx Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:52:02 +0000 http://psychcentral.com/blog/?p=1632#comment-275936 I am seriously sick and tired of hearing about the whole "antidepressant & suicide risk"... it just seems really ridiculous to me that they'd "discover" a correlation when the people who are taking these meds are likely to be suicidal from the get-go. So to go and blame it on the drug at least, in my mind, is asinine. DUH! Of course a lot of them are going to be suicidal, but to blame it on the med.. is just preposterous. I have a depression problem, but you wanna know when I'm feeling suicidal?? When I'm NOT on any kind of medication. Or when I've been drinking.(which i dont do.. as a matter of fact, haven't in nearly 3 years.. I KNOW better!!!) Anyhow.. you want something to blame someone's suicide on something? Well try pointing at something besides the medications that they may or may not have been taking.. stop blaming everything, and everyone for it.. these things happen.. and there is no good excuse for them.. you couldn't have stopped them.. and the fault dont not belong on any one thing or person.. its like a snowball.. and sometimes.. something YOU think is the most ridiculous reason in the world, just happens to be that straw that broke the camels back. You want to know a major cause of suicide? Is the da**ed drs out there that will prescribe antidepressants for someone who is highly depressed, but refuse to prescribe anything for the anxiety that the same drug causes.. so the person ends up in non-compliance, bcs its even harder to function when you're having panic attacks all the time than when you're so depressed you cant think straight. SO they quit taking the anti-dep, and next thing you know they're beyond depressed.. and all bcs the dr was worried that "oh no! they MIGHT get addicted to a drug" no, not that! bcs thats MUCH worse than suicide, isn't it? idiots. thats all. ~W. Thats all. I am seriously sick and tired of hearing about the whole “antidepressant & suicide risk”… it just seems really ridiculous to me that they’d “discover” a correlation when the people who are taking these meds are likely to be suicidal from the get-go. So to go and blame it on the drug at least, in my mind, is asinine. DUH! Of course a lot of them are going to be suicidal, but to blame it on the med.. is just preposterous. I have a depression problem, but you wanna know when I’m feeling suicidal?? When I’m NOT on any kind of medication. Or when I’ve been drinking.(which i dont do.. as a matter of fact, haven’t in nearly 3 years.. I KNOW better!!!) Anyhow.. you want something to blame someone’s suicide on something? Well try pointing at something besides the medications that they may or may not have been taking.. stop blaming everything, and everyone for it.. these things happen.. and there is no good excuse for them.. you couldn’t have stopped them.. and the fault dont not belong on any one thing or person.. its like a snowball.. and sometimes.. something YOU think is the most ridiculous reason in the world, just happens to be that straw that broke the camels back.

You want to know a major cause of suicide? Is the da**ed drs out there that will prescribe antidepressants for someone who is highly depressed, but refuse to prescribe anything for the anxiety that the same drug causes.. so the person ends up in non-compliance, bcs its even harder to function when you’re having panic attacks all the time than when you’re so depressed you cant think straight. SO they quit taking the anti-dep, and next thing you know they’re beyond depressed.. and all bcs the dr was worried that “oh no! they MIGHT get addicted to a drug” no, not that! bcs thats MUCH worse than suicide, isn’t it?

idiots.
thats all.
~W.

Thats all.

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