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		<title>By: mariah</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it wasnt very long when i wanted to become a psychologist, i really want to interact with children and their problems, in every person their is a story to tell. since i am a teenager myself i rarely see any depression and other situations around me but i still noe the people around me have gone through alot and need that help!! this site is a good example in which it can help a person but in a way make it harder but too those; life is too short so enjoy it a bad thing always leads to sumthing better :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it wasnt very long when i wanted to become a psychologist, i really want to interact with children and their problems, in every person their is a story to tell. since i am a teenager myself i rarely see any depression and other situations around me but i still noe the people around me have gone through alot and need that help!! this site is a good example in which it can help a person but in a way make it harder but too those; life is too short so enjoy it a bad thing always leads to sumthing better <img src='http://g.psychcentral.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://g.psychcentral.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Teen Suicide Rates Decline - World of Psychology</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teen Suicide Rates Decline - World of Psychology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Despite the hysteria a year ago about a one-year spike in teenage suicide rates, new data show what many were previously cautioning about &#8212; drawing broad conclusions from a single datapoint:  The new research, based on 1996-2005 national data, appears in Wednesday&#8217;s Journal of the American Medical Association. It shows the rate dropped by about 5 percent [&#8230;] from 1,983 suicides in 2004 to 1,883 in 2005. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Despite the hysteria a year ago about a one-year spike in teenage suicide rates, new data show what many were previously cautioning about &#8212; drawing broad conclusions from a single datapoint:  The new research, based on 1996-2005 national data, appears in Wednesday&#8217;s Journal of the American Medical Association. It shows the rate dropped by about 5 percent [&#8230;] from 1,983 suicides in 2004 to 1,883 in 2005. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this website just made it seem worse and made me even more depressed hearing other people&#039;s problems in life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this website just made it seem worse and made me even more depressed hearing other people&#8217;s problems in life</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 17:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS SITE KEPT ME FROM KILLING MYSELF!!</description>
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		<title>By: Dracovic</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too love talking about psychology.  I also love talking about philosophy and true monotheistic of thinking and living as well.  

Our psychological, emotional, relational, social, financial and physical lives are important to change for the better but our intellectual, spiritual, moral and religious lives are most important to concern ourselves about changing for the better.  

The only one who can really save us from destruction and more importantly from eternal torment is our own selves and the One True Eternal God who created all humans, all earthly creatures and the earth itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too love talking about psychology.  I also love talking about philosophy and true monotheistic of thinking and living as well.  </p>
<p>Our psychological, emotional, relational, social, financial and physical lives are important to change for the better but our intellectual, spiritual, moral and religious lives are most important to concern ourselves about changing for the better.  </p>
<p>The only one who can really save us from destruction and more importantly from eternal torment is our own selves and the One True Eternal God who created all humans, all earthly creatures and the earth itself.</p>
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		<title>By: kylee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kylee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love this site!!! it changed my friends life.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this site!!! it changed my friends life.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jericha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jericha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that they can have either affect on anyone. perhaps more in children in teens. Teens are not used to the emotional instability, and need to learn how to cope with it, which is always hard. However, with proper help along with the antidepressants, they might be able to harness their emotions and better understand themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that they can have either affect on anyone. perhaps more in children in teens. Teens are not used to the emotional instability, and need to learn how to cope with it, which is always hard. However, with proper help along with the antidepressants, they might be able to harness their emotions and better understand themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: sierra</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my mother is on antidepressants and she is a better person for it. she has more patients for my three younger brothers and i. she used to not be able to make dinner with us in the house. i think that these medications allow you to function normally and you are not having any side-affects, take them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my mother is on antidepressants and she is a better person for it. she has more patients for my three younger brothers and i. she used to not be able to make dinner with us in the house. i think that these medications allow you to function normally and you are not having any side-affects, take them.</p>
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		<title>By: New Reports Claim U.S. Teen Suicide Rates Increase after Drop in SSRI Use</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Reports Claim U.S. Teen Suicide Rates Increase after Drop in SSRI Use</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 00:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ernest Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight. On 12 February 2007 the CDC released statistics that show an increase in teen suicide for 2004. In 2004 the FDA mandates a Black Box warning label for antidepressants and now esteemed professors of psychiatry are claiming that this caused the increases in teen suicide for 2004 because parents took their kids off antidepressants. 

Psychiatry is such a complicated science. I have difficulty understanding it. It takes 12 years just to become a psychiatrist I understand. Maybe one of those professors of psychiatry could enlighten me to one fact. 

The FDA&#039;s &quot;Labeling Change Request Letter for Antidepressant Medications&quot; as shown at http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/antidepressants/SSRIlabelChange.htm says &quot;Date created: October 15, 2004, Updated, October 28, 2004. One could reasonably assume the drug companies did not start slapping Black Box warning on new batches of antidepressant that very day. In fact if you take into consideration that new labels would have to be made up and put on bottles of antidepressants and that stocks of these drugs in the pipeline to pharmacies needed to be sold, I don&#039;t think the public became significantly aware of any Black Box warning on antidepressants until early 2005. 

I didn&#039;t see any significant news coverage of this Black Box warning for antidepressant until December of 2004 as illustrated by the 3 December 2004 issue of &quot;ScienceDaily&quot; which can be found at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041203100252.htm.

So the idea that the Black Box warning on antidepressants had anything to do with an increase in teen suicide is TOTALLY FALSE and just wishful thinking on the part of psychiatrists and a waste of money for any drug company that may have paid them to write such stories. I&#039;m not saying this happened mind you.

In fact, 2004 marked the high point of prescriptions for antidepressants for teens. It is true that prescription rates for antidepressants did drop after the Black Box warning but that didn&#039;t occur in any significant number until 2005--a year that we don&#039;t yet have any CDC suicide stats for. One might just as scientifically infer that the rise in teen suicides during 2004 was due to record numbers of kids taking antidepressants. I wonder if I can get paid for saying that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight. On 12 February 2007 the CDC released statistics that show an increase in teen suicide for 2004. In 2004 the FDA mandates a Black Box warning label for antidepressants and now esteemed professors of psychiatry are claiming that this caused the increases in teen suicide for 2004 because parents took their kids off antidepressants. </p>
<p>Psychiatry is such a complicated science. I have difficulty understanding it. It takes 12 years just to become a psychiatrist I understand. Maybe one of those professors of psychiatry could enlighten me to one fact. </p>
<p>The FDA&#8217;s &#8220;Labeling Change Request Letter for Antidepressant Medications&#8221; as shown at <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/antidepressants/SSRIlabelChange.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/antidepressants/SSRIlabelChange.htm</a> says &#8220;Date created: October 15, 2004, Updated, October 28, 2004. One could reasonably assume the drug companies did not start slapping Black Box warning on new batches of antidepressant that very day. In fact if you take into consideration that new labels would have to be made up and put on bottles of antidepressants and that stocks of these drugs in the pipeline to pharmacies needed to be sold, I don&#8217;t think the public became significantly aware of any Black Box warning on antidepressants until early 2005. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see any significant news coverage of this Black Box warning for antidepressant until December of 2004 as illustrated by the 3 December 2004 issue of &#8220;ScienceDaily&#8221; which can be found at <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041203100252.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/12/041203100252.htm</a>.</p>
<p>So the idea that the Black Box warning on antidepressants had anything to do with an increase in teen suicide is TOTALLY FALSE and just wishful thinking on the part of psychiatrists and a waste of money for any drug company that may have paid them to write such stories. I&#8217;m not saying this happened mind you.</p>
<p>In fact, 2004 marked the high point of prescriptions for antidepressants for teens. It is true that prescription rates for antidepressants did drop after the Black Box warning but that didn&#8217;t occur in any significant number until 2005&#8211;a year that we don&#8217;t yet have any CDC suicide stats for. One might just as scientifically infer that the rise in teen suicides during 2004 was due to record numbers of kids taking antidepressants. I wonder if I can get paid for saying that?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look we are nearing the end of the world when god will Judge the whole world. These increaces will be seen not only in suicide but in violent crimes and other such occurances. Watch and Pray. Plead with God that you may be saved. Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look we are nearing the end of the world when god will Judge the whole world. These increaces will be seen not only in suicide but in violent crimes and other such occurances. Watch and Pray. Plead with God that you may be saved. Amen</p>
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		<title>By: abc</title>
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		<dc:creator>abc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 05:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Ian. It&#039;s people against SSRIs vs people for. No one gets convinced of anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Ian. It&#8217;s people against SSRIs vs people for. No one gets convinced of anything.</p>
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		<title>By: CL Psy</title>
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		<dc:creator>CL Psy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for linking to my post.  I agree with nearly everything you said in your post except for one point: in the same article that you cite in your post regarding SSRI prescriptions decreasing, there is some conflicting information that states: &quot;During that meeting, FDA officials presented data from IMS Health that appeared to show not a decrease in antidepressant prescriptions, as do the Medco data, but a 7 percent increase in the six months following the February meeting and the subsequent warnings.&quot;  

Thus, it is not even clear that there was a 
decrease in SSRI prescriptions, so there is not even any solid basis for a correlational relationship, much less a causal relationship.  I&#039;m glad to see that you are writing on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for linking to my post.  I agree with nearly everything you said in your post except for one point: in the same article that you cite in your post regarding SSRI prescriptions decreasing, there is some conflicting information that states: &#8220;During that meeting, FDA officials presented data from IMS Health that appeared to show not a decrease in antidepressant prescriptions, as do the Medco data, but a 7 percent increase in the six months following the February meeting and the subsequent warnings.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Thus, it is not even clear that there was a<br />
decrease in SSRI prescriptions, so there is not even any solid basis for a correlational relationship, much less a causal relationship.  I&#8217;m glad to see that you are writing on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;We shouldn’t make public policy decisions — or research or treatment decisions — based upon such a thin relationship.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

But isn&#039;t this exactly what happened with the black-box warning? 

There is little evidence antidepressants have caused more adolescent suicides, only that kids think about it more, just as they do when treated with Cognitive Behavior Therapy (Bridge JA, et al. 2005)

OTOH, there is a lot of evidence that alcohol and other &quot;recreational&quot; drugs often used to self-medicate anxiety and depressive disorders greatly increase the risk of suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We shouldn’t make public policy decisions — or research or treatment decisions — based upon such a thin relationship.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t this exactly what happened with the black-box warning? </p>
<p>There is little evidence antidepressants have caused more adolescent suicides, only that kids think about it more, just as they do when treated with Cognitive Behavior Therapy (Bridge JA, et al. 2005)</p>
<p>OTOH, there is a lot of evidence that alcohol and other &#8220;recreational&#8221; drugs often used to self-medicate anxiety and depressive disorders greatly increase the risk of suicide.</p>
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