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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you really think this is necessary?  I think you might get sued for slander if you are not careful, I hope this must be looked at before it is posted, but this distracts from the conversation and so I really don&#039;t like it.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you really think this is necessary?  I think you might get sued for slander if you are not careful, I hope this must be looked at before it is posted, but this distracts from the conversation and so I really don&#8217;t like it.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Janie Lee, M.Ed.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janie Lee, M.Ed.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s a great entry that rips into a Psychiatric Services article, published by the American Psychiatry Association.

The humiliating logical fallacies the authors of the Psychiatric Services article, David J. Rissmiller and Joshua H. Rissmiller, engage in are shameful. The first and most serious fallacy is called poisoning the well, By using the loaded, emotional word “antipsychiatry” to describe a supposed historical perspective of “mental health consumerism,” they’ve set the stage. Are people who search for and want to educate others about alternative, less invasive “treatments” than electroshock therapy (ECT) really “antipsychiatry”? 

Being “anti-” anything is seen as a negative. That is why...the abortion debate in America redefined the...terms — “pro-life” sounds a lot better than “anti-abortion.” And the media bought it. You very rarely hear a news article or announcer discuss an “anti-abortion” advocate or rally. 

By poisoning the well up-front, they’ve already set the stage for the argument that this is their field under attack by forces lined up against them. 

Another fallacy employed by the article’s authors is guilt by association. By lumping together peaceful, educational groups and extremists who would like to see the end of psychiatry as we know it, the authors place the strong suggestion that these groups all stand for the same thing. They do not. 

Spikol hit it right on the money and it is sloppy academic articles of this nature that provide future evidence of belief for the psychiatric profession. It’s a shame, because the mental health consumer movement deserves better treatment and attention.

I disagree with some of this, the way you frame something is important, political historical data about something is also important, and the movement, well that is not antipsychiatry in most forms it takes, it is give it to us, but do it to us our way, that can&#039;t ever be as long as it is seen the way it is as something that is a medical scientific thing when there is no valid or conclusive or reliable evidence for that being the case, no matter who says what! And it isn&#039;t feasible to call the ones that are antipsychiatry less peaceful then those that are for psychiatry and do it your way tactics, that is one of the problems with your theory here.  How does it make it better for anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s a great entry that rips into a Psychiatric Services article, published by the American Psychiatry Association.</p>
<p>The humiliating logical fallacies the authors of the Psychiatric Services article, David J. Rissmiller and Joshua H. Rissmiller, engage in are shameful. The first and most serious fallacy is called poisoning the well, By using the loaded, emotional word “antipsychiatry” to describe a supposed historical perspective of “mental health consumerism,” they’ve set the stage. Are people who search for and want to educate others about alternative, less invasive “treatments” than electroshock therapy (ECT) really “antipsychiatry”? </p>
<p>Being “anti-” anything is seen as a negative. That is why&#8230;the abortion debate in America redefined the&#8230;terms — “pro-life” sounds a lot better than “anti-abortion.” And the media bought it. You very rarely hear a news article or announcer discuss an “anti-abortion” advocate or rally. </p>
<p>By poisoning the well up-front, they’ve already set the stage for the argument that this is their field under attack by forces lined up against them. </p>
<p>Another fallacy employed by the article’s authors is guilt by association. By lumping together peaceful, educational groups and extremists who would like to see the end of psychiatry as we know it, the authors place the strong suggestion that these groups all stand for the same thing. They do not. </p>
<p>Spikol hit it right on the money and it is sloppy academic articles of this nature that provide future evidence of belief for the psychiatric profession. It’s a shame, because the mental health consumer movement deserves better treatment and attention.</p>
<p>I disagree with some of this, the way you frame something is important, political historical data about something is also important, and the movement, well that is not antipsychiatry in most forms it takes, it is give it to us, but do it to us our way, that can&#8217;t ever be as long as it is seen the way it is as something that is a medical scientific thing when there is no valid or conclusive or reliable evidence for that being the case, no matter who says what! And it isn&#8217;t feasible to call the ones that are antipsychiatry less peaceful then those that are for psychiatry and do it your way tactics, that is one of the problems with your theory here.  How does it make it better for anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Psychiatry, anti-psychiatry and mental disease: Does psychiatry suck? &#124; Encefalus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psychiatry, anti-psychiatry and mental disease: Does psychiatry suck? &#124; Encefalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: nance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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On Sept 8,2005 RN:Mark Samuel was sentenced to five years in Jail with all but two years suspended,having been convicted in January 2004 of unlawful sexual contact with a 6 year-old girl . Mark Samuel counseled the girls mother. when the counseling ended , the three became friends attending family fuctions together. The violations occurred during sleepovers at the Nurses residence during the summer of 2003. Mark Samuel has been released from prison and is now at risk to the community of North Bay Ontario Mark Samuel emyployed 2007 for Assertive community treatment Team North Bay, ON<br />
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